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If you have been reading my blog for a while you know that I have been talking about the issue regarding all the extra nasty stuff that goes on in some (most, unfortunately) strip clubs. I am absolutely against it and I don't think that sex and strip clubs go hand in hand. I feel very strongly about this issue and have been upset many times and even felt sad at work because I have seen stuff that should not be going on at all in a strip club. After all, in majority of the clubs management makes you read and sign paperwork where the rules are being dictated. Rules that adhere to touching and sex. There is usually limited touching, in some clubs no touching at all is allowed and absolutely no sex. Strip clubs are not brothels. And to be fair, I have worked in clubs where management do a pretty good job to make sure that the rules are being followed for the most part. But I have also worked in clubs where the rules are only some words written on a piece of paper and basically everything goes. GROSS! I am a dancer, yes in strip clubs but I have not signed up for guys grabbing me wherever they think they should, I don't allow it ever and I don't think it should be allowed. Period. If I was ok with all the extra stuff, I would had worked as a high class courtesan in large cities across the world and raked in the money, trust me. But I don't want to do that. I am glad to see that I am not alone in feeling like this. And not the only one talking about it. There are other dancers that wonder what the hell is going on at the clubs they work at, they too are fed up with it and upset. I have been reading some online discussions with interest and I am going to share some of it here so you can see what other dancers are saying about this. I am withholding the names of the ladies.

"I've been dancing almost 10 years, and in the last year sh!t has gotten BAD, not only $ wise compared to 04-07 but in general, I cant do a $20 dance anymore without a customer thinking its OKAY to grope my tits, really...WTF??? this is getting ridiculous, I dont even feel like im a dancer anymore rather than a freaking babysitter. I should be able to DANCE for one song, without having to fight off every single guys hands that i dance for, COME ON, ladies have some balls and start telling the customers "HEY! if you want to touch lets take it to VIP" im guessing this has gotten so bad lately cause girls are so hard up they are allowing this MORE and more, so how bout we start enforcing a little more, so we can all be happier dancers!!!!"

"The club I'm at is just as bad with the demand of extras and lack of respect... plus half the customers come in to 'have a drink', no tipping, no VIP, and then leave (oh and half watch the music videos or a football game on the teles with their backs to the stage). I wonder sometimes if I am a dancer or a naked girl in a bar..."

"Lazy or desperate girls, scummy cheapass customers & scummy club mgmt. Can't tell you how many times I've slapped customers or kicked them in the face for grabbing me inappropriately or smacking my ass hard enough to leave bruises - then mgmt taking me into the office to lecture me for being a liability."

"This 'downward evolution' arguably started back in 2001 as both the result of the post 9/11 economic downturn plus increasing availability of adult internet content. It got much worse around 2008 as the result of major reductions in customer 'discretionary spending' budgets as well as an influx of new ''''dancers'''' whose primary objective was instant income ... sometimes by whatever means necessary. It was at this point that I personally decided to retire from live dancing, as the strip club 'show business' model clearly mutated into a 'sex business' model."

"Clubowners that find themselves increasingly hard pressed to turn a profit after paying higher property taxes, higher utility bills, higher insurance premiums etc. may make the situation even worse by tacitly or blatantly encouraging ''''dancers'''' to offer 'extras', from which the clubowner directly or indirectly earns a 'cut'. As was mentioned above, in a few instances this has now progressed to the point where some clubowners view clean dancers as a 'liability', since their failure to attract customer 'extras' money ( thus a 'cut' for the clubowner ) represents de-facto lost income for the clubowner versus replacing the clean dancer with another ''''dancer'''' who is willing to provide customers the 'bang' they are now expecting in exchange for their bucks."

"It sucks, but this is becoming the norm. I work in Detroit, which is extrasville. I just found a 'clean' club (guys still try to grope you and they get away with it if you don't stop them), but at every other Detroit club I've worked at, the majority of the girls did extras (I'm talking bj and sex). A lot of the clubs are basically brothels. These are the same clubs where touching didn't even used to be allowed.
When the economy went downhill, things changed. Girls started offering more for less. Some clubs started allowing it. Clubs lowered their hiring standards once they switched from paying the girls a wage to charging a house fee, because now the more girls they have the more money the club makes off them.
I don't know if the industry will ever recover. I don't want to diss my age group, but there ARE a lot of young, dumb strippers who just became a stripper for the hell of it and only want to get wasted and party with their stripper friends at work; they're not serious about the job. I feel like these days, unless you're at a super high end / competitive club, you'll see so many girls who are simply trashy and don't take their job seriously. It's not a 'job' to them, it's a social experience. Girls at mid tier clubs used to have to look great, well put together, hair done, nice outfit... now this is ONLY the case for top tier clubs. Dancer quality has gone down to the point that girls do extras and let guys grope them because they don't know how to be strippers. They don't know how to entertain; they don't know how to engage customers in conversation; they don't know how to keep a guy in VIP for hours. Until clubs raise their standards, this will be the norm. Trashy girls who let guys have their way because they don't know any better. So now guys think it is OK, and the cycle continues."

"In my city, you really can't do a legal dance or even a "clean" one and expect to make money nine nights out of ten. I have been dismissed by customers within 10 seconds of songs for not offering enough contact, and IMO, I begrudgingly offer medium-high contact dances. Groping and grinding is the baseline norm here, but now I have guys bitching if I don't immediately rip off my clothes and shove my crotch in their faces. I haven't been into work for two weeks because I flipped shit on someone who kissed me when I leaned in for his name and he then refused to tip me when I became angry--and my manager didn't give a fuck. I redirect hands, I ask them not to touch my nipples, I dance farther away, I get the manager--it all comes down to me walking away with $86 after working for 7 hours because other girls are fucking in plain view within fifteen feet from the main stage. It's insane. I have met fewer than five normal-minded girls in clubs. Most of them think I am ridiculous for not drinking, getting high, or fucking customers. They truly think that being a discount prostitute is the job description, and it's all good as long as the guy is buying them shots."

"While there have always been extras girls the difference is for the most part they did it outside the club because the club would fire them. Now even formerly clean clubs are now extras ridden and what used to be considered extras are now the norm. Hard to believe now but I got in trouble for kissing a regular on the cheek or even allowing a regular to briefly touch my legs. Also, yes the standards look wise have gone down. Back in my dancing days I worked at the midlevel clubs because I wasn't the Barbie type but even those clubs had standards. I recently saw the website of a club I once danced at and the dancers looked sleazy."

"IMHO today there is only one 'clean' strip club business model that can still be successful / profitable. That business model involves upscale clubs in big cities which only hire the 'best of the best' dancers ... which are able to attract upscale customers who fall into the 'top 5%' earnings tier. This caliber of customer can afford to spend $500-$1000 for basic 'entertainment' from low contact dancers during one trip to a strip club without feeling that they haven't gotten their 'money's worth'."

"I have spoken a few times where I saw this happen: owner gets greedy and either starts raising house or starts hiring less desirable dancers. Often times these less desirable dancers also happen to be hookers (and in one case were actual streetwalkers). Quality dancers leave and with them the quality customers. The club then becomes a skanky club full of hookers, pimps, drug dealers and low class men. Club then gets busted and often closes. Dancers that are used to making $200 a night doing air dances don't exactly like the idea of making $50 after doing extras (just throwing out random numbers). I resented when these clubs became unworkable because at one time they were nice clean clubs I brought friends to and wasn't ashamed to admit I danced there."

"I think if these dirty clubs start getting busted more often, and instead of just the dancer getting fire, the club gets a fined, it will end this quickly. Management can do A LOT to keep the club in control, by changing the club layout and enforcing the rules."

"Evolve with the times. Lots of guys spend money in strip clubs today, you just gotta be picky with you you dance for, I find. I refuse to dance/ talk to anyone who doesn't treat me with the respect I deserve, therefore I attract mostly respectful customers. Not all of them are perfect gentlemen, but all of them mind when I say no or I won't see them. Stripping needs a serious makeover. It needs to evolve. This is no longer the 80's/90's when girls where banking soooo hard every night. It needs an upgrade. The internet is the new thing of the day and I'm sorry, but it's 2014, if you are ashamed of your job/ worry about what others think of you working in this industry/ are afraid others might find out, this is not the arena for you. There need to be new standards for hiring in strip clubs all across the board, who is allowed in, webcams in clubs, schedules of dancers online, totally revamped websites etc. Nothing will ever beat meeting a woman face to face for some men and those men will spend bank. Stripping needs something to spice it up, I don't have all the answers, but it can't remain the way it is and continue to be successful.
My club recently put in ad in a local Mexican magazine, attracting more cheap ass rancheros with no money to spend and rampant expectation of extras/ sex/ titty licking/ haggling. It increased the clubs' drink sales, but did pretty much nothing for the dancers except piss us off and make our club look like a place where cheap asses come for a free show. I gave this guy a dance and asked for a tip after and he handed me a dollar... ONE DOLLAR. Lol... If you want people to come into the club and spend MONEY, go for QUALITY, not quantity. The club I work at has become a bikini bar where naked girls happen to do pole tricks and if you tip a dollar, they will grind on you and you can stick your finger in their ass. /sarcasm."

"Honestly, I think the party girl strippers don't help as well. They treat the job as a hobby and guys think they can get away with spending a few dollars. I know the club I'm at now has some extras, but according to the bouncers it just happens once in a while, and usually the girl is getting paid quite well for it. I honestly think the industry needs to become unionized. I think girls should actually have interviews instead of just stripping down during "auditions", which was basically my last one. I think we should get paid just like a server or bartender. I'm sick of seeing ugly bitches at high class joints and guys thinking they're entitled to more for their money. I think it needs to go back to what it was and be about entertainment and enjoying time with nice, hot girls instead of being whore houses. I also think that more dancers should learn pole work (working on it at the moment), have a kind of gimmick, instead of some dead faced looking girl half assed dancing on stage. Being paid employees would stop all that half-assedness."

"Things need to evolve or die. It's the nature of things. I think we're going to die. Between the advent of home poles, pole dancing classes for suburban soccer moms to "Unleash their inner stripper" eyeroll and trying to get pole dancing into the Olympics, it has gone mainstream and therefore not taboo anymore. Our job's glory days were when it was taboo and shocking."

"I am glad im not the only one noticing the HUGE decline is quality of dancers that are fucking up this business (aka 18-21 yr old skanks that dont treat it as A JOB) and the lack of guys actually realizing what they are getting themselves into when they walk into a strip club!!! I am repulsed every time i walk in there and see a table of 5-8 guys with NO GIRLS cause they dont spend a damn thing!!!!! wtf??? you think this is our community service??? not to mention most clubs show 0 appreciation for the dancers, and WITHOUT US, they wouldnt make shit!!! sorry for ranting i just hate that a once amazing business has turned into panhandling!!!"

"if there is any offsetting 'reality' from the 5-8 guys that aren't spending on dancers, from the clubowner's standpoint these guys are at least still paying cover charges and still generating club profits from drink sales. Without that revenue, the clubs would be seeking even more dollars out of the dancer's pockets and/or closing the club's doors due to bankruptcy thus reducing dancer earnings to zero."

'Welcome to the new US strip club paradigm ...
- a comparative handful of upscale large city clubs who hire a comparative handful of 'top shelf' dancers are able to appeal to 'top 10%' earning club customers who can actually still afford to spend a significant amount of money in a strip club, or
- 'dirty' clubs where girls offer enough 'extras' to pursuade 'working class' customers to spend their limited dollars for a happy ending tonight, and worry about how they'll buy groceries and/or pay their rent tomorrow, or
- neighborhood / small city 'clean' clubs that are being 'starved' into slow motion bankruptcy due to insufficient available 'non-essential' spending dollars from the club's customer base to 'pay the club's bills', and/or to provide the 'clean' dancers with enough income to make dancing at the club worthwhile in the future."

"And this is what has made me hate this business. I know everyone says that if you no longer enjoy dancing..get it out..But it isnt that easy for me, and prolly many others like me.
People do still come into the bars..They come in in groups..What pisses me off is that they sit around and dont feel obligated to tip the dancers..They dont care that we are there to pay bills and be able to survive...They just care about buying their alcohol and sightseeing for free.
It has become cool to hangout in stripclubs and be a part of the scene..Meanwhile shitting all over the dancers and making fun of us many nights that I go into work at least. And if u rnt the 'favorite' of the night u dont make shit...
I miss the days when people came in and appreciated us..Those were some enjoyable times..I miss dancing in that era."

"This was the major reason that I retired from live dancing 4 years ago...when it became crystal clear to me that the 'old' strip club paradigm... where dancers were considered to be 'performers' rather than 'sex workers', when 'top shelf' but clean dancers were treated with at least some element of respect by clubowners and club customers alike, and where 'average' club customers could still afford to spend a fair amount of money at a strip club without short-changing their mortgage payment and/or car payment and/or grocery and utility bills...was not going to come back into existence within the practical 'lifetime' of my dancing career !!!"


Yeah....there you go. There is much more about this subject, that was only a taste. But I need to go, I have other stuff to take care of today also besides the blog. I am glad that there are other dancers out there that feel like I do. There have been times at work where I have looked around the club in despair, wondering where all the "normal" and clean dancers are.

It's a snowy Sunday here in Kenai. I woke up and saw that there is a fresh layer out and it got colder too. I'm ok with the new snow but not that it got about 15 degrees colder. It has been pretty warm here for a while (considering it's January) and it's nice not too freeze.
I jumped out of bed when I got up and hurried over to Coffee Roasters, they close at 2 pm on Sundays. Maybe I'll go to the gym too later.
Last night was unusually slow for a Saturday. I guess the whole town was dead, the club checks with the cabbies and the bars about what's going on in town throughout the night. There were three guys in total. One old man that got drunk. He talked about that he wants to get rid of his Basset Hound because it produces larger poops than his Labrador. Just another great dog owner. No clue whatsoever.
The two other guys were sitting and talking about all the women they've had sex with, describing their physical attributes and arguing whether they hooked up with each others girlfriends, wives and sisters. And commenting stuff about the girls on stage. I told them to shut up when I went up and immediately got labeled "mean". I like that! Yeah buddy, mean is just a scratch on the surface. Go somewhere else and talk about women like that, we don't want to hear it.
So none of us made money (besides a little) but we found ways to entertain ourselves.
We laughed about such fun things as pinworms. Imagine a dancer with a pinworm infestation, the little fuckers would glow in the black light. One of my long standing jokes,
"Do you want to see my pinworms?" Yea, that is my kind of humor. Some of it. Then we laughed about Bukkake omelettes (still) and collectively felt very grossed out by it. I'd rather have pinworms for the rest of my life than do THAT, YUCK! Some girls organized their lockers. And that was that.

There is a reason why Bossy by Lindsay Lohan is kind of like my theme song. It is actually a good song, very cute, sassy, good message and perfect for me I think. What you think is none of my concern.
I'd much rather sing along to or go on stage to a girl singing about being bossy than some rocker dude singing about a girl looking better with something in her mouth or a rapper yapping about bitches and hoe's that need to give him all their money. No darlin', YOU give ME all your money and shut YOUR mouth or stuff it with something.....thank you. I never go on stage to songs that I think are about putting women down and I will wait for another song to do a lap dance if something like that is playing. An example that comes to mind is
Fuck You Blind by Kid Rock. Although I like some of his other songs.
This is me laying down the law for Sharon last night. I am bossy (typical alpha female) but in a good way though. I want what's good for people. And sometimes they simply need somebody telling them what to do. That is just how it is. Sharon needs money, therefore she needs to bring her ass to work. Sometimes you just need that extra kick in the ass to get out of the house and DO SOMETHING.
And KOOTER is my new fave word for VAGINE.



Stop touching me without permission
Don't disobey, answer to me
Said if you wanna play, follow direction
We do this my way, my way, my way

What do you really want? What do wanna know?
What do you wanna see? Where do you wanna go?
If you leave it to me, we will not go slow
I got places to be, when you're ready let me know

I'm just a little bossy
I like it how I like it, when I like it and that's how it is
I'm just a little bossy
You got a problem with it? If I want it I get it now

Trust me, you want me happy
Punishment can be severe
Please me and I will gladly
Brighten up your atmosphere

Let me shine for you
Only if I want to

Key words here ladies...... Stop touching me without permission and Only if I want to .
Ladies, don't let some guy dictate your life. You are the captain of your journey!

I made a new friend at work last night, her name is Koda and I fell in love. Some guy brought his dog in, yes we allow that sometimes, I would feel bad if a dog had to freeze outside in a car, alone for several hours. Koda is amazing, very polite, super soft and she loved keeping me company on the couch throughout the evening. I was happy. Koda got lots of attention from me, many kisses. Clay (the dj) said that he would put on a collar and a leash and walk on all fours if I promise to give him that kind of attention too. Of course! I keep all my men in a choke collar and on a tight leash. That is the only way to keep a man ladies. Shock collar applies if they misbehave too much.
We were slow, kind of. Larry, the one that made the phone call the other night came in.
I guess he took my advice to come in after all. Actually he turned out to be really nice, a real sweetie. And generous indeed. Nice.



Besides this......I am SO tired. I yawned repeatedly on the drive to Coffee Roasters. It's the weather. I am going to force myself to go to the gym to get my body moving and sweating and get more energized. I really just want to curl up and sleep but I know that the gym will do me good.

Oh, I had the most totally stripperfabulicious day today so far. Full of craaaazy excitement!
I get asked almost every time I work, what ELSE I do. Like I have to be doing something extraordinary with my life outside of work just because I am a dancer. My amazing life could rival Paris Hilton's any day of the week (I WISH!). While Paris is off dj'ing in Ibiza or somewhere, I did such fun things today as got a latte at Coffee Roasters. WOW!
Sat at the DMV for about 40 long minutes, just so I could present the sour clerk with a piece of paper. FUN! Stood in the slow line a the post office just so I could get some mail belonging to me. EXCITING! Went to Fred Meyer to get some groceries. SEXY! Took Chhaya for a walk around a lake. SUPER COOL!
Check out what I got at Fred Meyer. It's almost as much fun as shopping spree at Neiman Marcus. My other fave place to shop.



Meat for Chhaya. Some yams, I love yams although not the overly sweet candied ones. Hummus. Apples, organic of course. And I found a new bread that is soooooo good.
They bake it at Fred Meyer every day, so it's fresh and it has cinnamon and raisins in it.
I already ate half of it. I used to eat the Robust Raisin by Dave's Killer Bread, that was my fave but they stopped either making it or selling it here. But now I have a new fave, I love bread.
Now I'm in bed, having quality time with my imaginary best friend Sheldon. I still love him, he is the best. Later on I am going to glue on those 105's again and really become stripperfabulicious. It's a miracle, like having a transformation done by a wave of a magic wand by my own fairy godmother. From normal and somewhat winter frumpy to stripperfabulicious in about 10 minutes. Amazing! TA-DAAA!

The other night at work the phone rang and Boss Lady answered. The person on the other line asked what girls were working (happens a lot here since it's a small town and a small club and some people do not want to bother coming in unless somebody they fancy is working.......you know, like ME)......anyhow......we actually had a few of us working that night. Boss Lady rattled off the report, Tatiana, Alyra, Marlene, Rouge and Autumn. I don't know why but all of a sudden I get handed the phone. I have only gotten one other phone call to the club, some guy proposed to me over the phone. LOL. Anyhow. The man on the other line introduced himself as "Larry, that spends a lot of money in there." OK.......? And? Then Larry proceeded to ask me if I, or some other girl, could perhaps give him some entertainment OUTSIDE of the club, in one of the motels. Again, he reminded me that he does have a lot of money. I resisted the immediate urge to hang up on him and decided to investigate the situation further. I asked him if he ever had any of the other girls entertain him outside of the club and if so, which one, so I could perhaps have her vouch for him. Indeed, he had! I already knew who he was going to say. The one that we all know does the extra activities outside of the club and the extra dirty dances inside of the club. But I wanted to hear him say it. It was FUGLY. Then he said that FUGLY hustles him too much for his money. I happen to remember who Larry is. About a month ago we had another slow night at work, Larry happened to be the only guy in there and FUGLY was busy with him. He even left the club and then came back for more. The reason I remember Larry is because he has a distinctive handicap, I'm not going to tell you what but he does. I ended the conversation by telling Larry that if he wants to see and talk to us girls he needs to come to the club. I am not available for any motel style entertainment and as far as I know, none of the other girls present that night either. The sex starved men here in town simply have to wait to get sex and bj's for $$$ until FUGLY returns. This whole thing made me somewhat upset and I walked up to Boss Lady and told her that I think it is really fucked up that they allow this shit to go on when they know what FUGLY is about. It is obvious! How are the CLEAN girls supposed to make any money? FUGLY has put a damper on the club, for us girls that is. And I am not the only one that think so.
For management she is an asset, because they make money off her ugly and nasty ass. Although I hear that more and more guys have come to the realization what she is about and they are not happy about it. That will lead to them not wanting to come into the club when she is there. And that means less revenue for the club. I asked Boss Lady if the club is still a strip club or is it now a whorehouse? Because if it is a whorehouse I am in the wrong place.
If you are a whore then you should take your business to a more lucrative place, that would be my suggestion. Boss Lady asked me what I suggest she should do. I said fire the dirty girls.
She then said that she would have no dancers left if she did so, because according to her
90 % of us dancers are dirty and do extras (meaning stuff outside the club). I told her that I disagree. I know dancers that are clean and don't do stuff like that, that I know about at least. The she said that my friend that I brought to the club did. Oh......hmmmm......well, last summer I invited a girl that I used to be friends with to come and work here. She needed money badly so why not? Well, one night she got paid to leave the club with some guy.
She left and I didn't see her until the following evening at work (or maybe it was a few days later, I can't recall now). I was not involved in any of that whatsoever. Somehow management found out and they questioned me in the office whether she was a prostitute or not, saying that they could get in trouble with the law. I told them that I had no way of knowing what she was doing and that I was not responsible for any of her behavior at work, or outside for that matter. I am not responsible for another person after all. Besides, who says that she was having sex for money? But what I do find ironic in this whole deal is that they actually know what FUGLY is up to. If they are so worried about getting in hot water with the law around here they should hurry up and get rid of FUGLY and her friend The Bulldog. It is very obvious what they are doing.
One more thing. There is a guy that comes in almost every night. He is very nice and a few months ago he started getting dances with FUGLY. I stopped talking to him at that point because I consider him more like my friend and I so strongly dislike FUGLY and thought he was a moron to spend his money on her, like a desperate fool. Well, at the Christmas party we had at the club last month somebody took his wallet and emptied it on $ 1000. FUGLY was the only one that danced for him that evening and she even clawed through his wallet and helped herself to whatever she thought he owed her for the lap dances (TACKY). His wallet got found the following day, empty of money in a trash can in the bathroom. He thinks it was FUGLY that took his wallet but he can't prove it. It would not surprise me whatsoever because according to at least four other girls The Bulldog has been fired from the club more than once (I heard FIVE times) because she stole money or wallets from guys. And The Bulldog and FUGLY are "best friends".
I do not want to be associated with this kind of behavior in any shape or form. I am a dancer, not some kind of a low class hooker. Therefore I do not associate with FUGLY at all. Most girls in the club smile in her face and talk lots of bad things about her behind her back.
Me....I don't sit next to her and I only address her if absolutely necessary, the same goes for The Bulldog. Taking people's wallets, come on now! Doesn't the entertainment outside of the club pay enough?
To be fair here and to not be a hypocrite (I dislike hypocrites and strive to not be one myself)
I should say that yes.....dancers do leave the club for money sometimes. They get paid to hang out, not for sex. Usually in a place like Las Vegas, a city busy 24/7 where you can go gambling. I have many girlfriends that have gone gambling with guys after work for money.
I did this a few times buy never alone, I always went with a friend. And it's not as fun and uncomplicated as it seems, I definitely prefer going gambling with people that I know.
No strings attached and no hidden expectations.
You can read about one of those adventures here .
And I did make an attempt to do some private dancing outside of the club one time. I quickly realized that I had put myself in an awkward and weird situation, to be one on one with somebody like that. Not for me. You want to read about it? Here .