Today's very important question at Kaladi was whether you prefer blondes or brunettes.....hmmmmm.....I do not have a preference so I put a dollar in each jar. My number one girl is still Rihanna. I met up with Daisee at Kaladi, we sat there and talked for a while, then I did some errands and came home. I worked last night but I forgot my selfie machine (phone) in the car so no pics from last night. By 1 am I was so tired I could barely keep my eyes open, I am still on Stockholm time. By 3 30 am I finally left after asking several times if I could leave already due to me being tired, there were plenty of girls and nobody spending any money when I left, so it's not like I left at a bad time. My other question (to no one in particular, so do not feel obligated to preach a sermon to me like somebody already did a few times.....spare me that, thanks) or should I say thought is.....if dancers are so called independent contractors or self employed like most clubs like to refer us as, meaning we do not get an hourly salary from the club we work at, no form of insurance, no 401k etc etc, then we should be able to arrive to work and leave whenever we want, right? Or are dancers employees? There should be no fines implemented on dancers for "being late" or a NO when we want to leave the club for whatever reason. This is why girls are now suing clubs all over the country and actually winning the lawsuits, not because some judge is feeling sorry for the dancers, simply because the clubs (club owners) are breaking the law. Just a small observation. Girls are talking. I guess they are fed up with being treated as disposable doormats with no rights. And rightfully so.
YAWN.....again, I'm tired. Taking Chhaya out now.
Oh.....and if you want to read a bit more about dancers and whether they are considered employees of a club or independent contractors, I found a recent article. That might shed some light on the constant dilemma.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/judge-pin-ups-strippers-are-employees-not-independ/ncbyS
Mumintrollet on :
The main problem sounds like the revenue share system, you get to pay a fee whatever you make.
Too many girls and the club still makes good money, but you could even have to pay to perform.
TATIANA Post author on :
We are paying to "perform" it's called a "house fee" and you pay that at almost every club.....plus all the other things (tip outs) that we pay.
The dancers basically support the dj, in many clubs we also have tip the house mom(s), waitresses, bartenders, bouncer(s)/door person. The club owners have it figured out so they give out as little as possible and the dancers pay to work at the club and also monetary support the rest of the staff.
Mumintrollet on :
Yeah I know you have to pay up front to dance, so if you dont make enough money you lose money.
Both the clubs and the girls need to make money to make it work, the problem is that short term clubs aren't punished by having too many girls , they still get the fees and probably sell more drinks.
I think part of the problem also is that some clubs dont respect strippers. Some rules seem arbitrary.
Mumintrollet on :
It's not logical that you tip the bartenders and waitresses but they dont tip you. As they get their own tips.
TATIANA Post author on :
And in some clubs you pay a house fee plus money for each dance you do plus tip out everybody else that stands with their hand out demanding some of you money.
Every club is different in how they handle that.
I have no problem tipping the dj. If I go on stage that is.
But tipping the bartender and the wait staff? For what? I don't even drink. And when a guy does buy me a drink in the club (juice and soda water) he tips the waitress or bartender when he pays, so why should I tip too?
Too many girls is never a good thing. Only for the club, because they charge us all to work there. For ex 200 girls times $80 house fee = $16 000/night. That is a lot of money. On the other hand many of those 200 girls wont be making any or much profit after paying the house fee, simply because there are too many girls and not enough guys in the club. Unless it's a club that stays busy.
That in turn makes some girls (many it seems) to do stuff that should not happen in a STRIP club.....since they become desperate and feel they HAVE to make money somehow. Or they rip the guys off, steal from them etc. So while the club makes it's money, they don't think ahead and worry about that the guy that got ripped off won't ever come back and will tell all his friends to stay away from that shit hole. Or the risk of getting shut down because some of the girls are engaging in unsafe and dirty practices that belong in a whore house. Or some hotel room.
Mandy on :
And the managment sometimes arent the sharpest tools in the shed either. They would rather run out the pretty girls who bring in quality clientele and fill their place with crackhead trash that does whatever is asked. Dumb.
Many customers have no idea what we pay. And if you dont tip the employees, they treat us very poorly. Almost blackmail. The majority of strip club employees think that what we do isn't worth as much as them, they believe they are entitled to the money we make, even believe they should make more than us....and at times they do, on top of the hourly wage they get. Bullshit.
In reality, we run those places, and if anything they should be a hell of a lot more accommodating.
TATIANA Post author on :
I don't see why the bartender or waitress should get any tips from us dancers when they in fact make hourly and their own tips. Why should I pay them too? Would they share their tips with us dancers? No. And neither would I want them too, since it's their money that they earned.
Most club owners seem to think that quantity over quality is better and then they end up with a bunch of drug addicts or weirdos acting crazy and scaring away the good clientele that actually have money to spend.
And yes.....if you pay to work, legally (if I'm not mistaken) you should be able to arrive and leave when you want. No forcing the girls to stay and threatening to fire them or penalize them with fines if they want to leave early.
Mumintrollet on :
The reason is the business model for the clubs are basically twofold.
1. The club rents space to dancers.
2. A bar with nice girls on stage pulls in customers paying for drinks.
The clubs should charge the girls for nr1 , it costs money to run the place. Like a hair salon.
But the clubs should pay for nr2.
So you could look at it as if you get a subsidy on the house fee if you show up.
But this penalty is ONLY if there's an agreed limit on the number of dancers and if the dancer fully own the stage time slot you pay "house fee" for and the club cant replace the dancer.
TATIANA Post author on :
Well, some girls sued the club over these practices and won. Good for them!
I worked at Flashdancers, NYC. Although I liked working there their rules regarding fines are harsh. There too you make a schedule one week in advance. If you miss one of your scheduled shifts for whatever reason you pay a $100 fine (then it was like that, maybe they charge more today). I got a bad cold and could not work, I missed two of my scheduled nights....had to pay the club $200. I should had stayed home a few more days to get fully recovered but did not want to end up paying another 200 or 300, therefore I froze my ass off at work and had a runny nose, probably spread my germs around. Made other girls sick. And so it goes.
Imagine if people with "regular" jobs would get fined money if they were sick, had a sick child at home and missed work due to that etc etc.....that would NOT be popular and would not work. They would be sitting at work with a fever, strep throat, bronchitis, ebola, chickenpox because nobody wants to pay a $100 fine.